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Posted - 2008.12.02 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: Clarisaa Maybe stating the obvious but were you aligned when mining or just pointing in a random direction? Being aligned reduces warp out to seconds even when stationnary,...
No, it doesn't. When stationary, you are aligned in all directions and only need to get to speed, which is why you can insta-warp freighters with a webifier. ----- I'm a collector! Want to trade? See my Collection List and contact me. |

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Posted - 2008.12.03 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Maria Kalista Have your ships aligned to/ safespots/ planetary objects.
This has already been mentioned a few times: Aligning does nothing for you if you just stop afterward. The server doesn't care what direction your ship appears to be pointing on screen: if you are starting from 0 m/s, it takes the same amount of time to warp in any direction. ----- I'm a collector! Want to trade? See my Collection List and contact me. |

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Posted - 2008.12.03 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Normin Bates
Originally by: 21 Salvager Aligning does nothing for you if you just stop afterward. The server doesn't care what direction your ship appears to be pointing on screen: if you are starting from 0 m/s, it takes the same amount of time to warp in any direction.
You don't know what you're talking about. Scrub.
Really?
Originally by: Sokratesz
Align time is independent of the direction your ship is facing.
Originally by: Ter Fordal
the time to align from standstill is unaffected by your initial orientation
Originally by: 0mega
Being 'aligned' is defined by moving towards a target at a speed fast enough to begin warp immediately. The direction you see a ship pointing is a purely graphical effect based on the direction it was moving before stopping last. It has no bearing on how fast you warp out from a 0m/s start.
Originally by: Roemy Schneider
the direction your ship is facing is purely graphical. in eve, there only seems to be motion vectors. iow, standing still facing in one direction results in a zero-vector
Originally by: Ecky X
If you're moving at 0m/s, it takes the same time to accelerate in any direction. It doesn't matter which way your ship is pointing. It only takes additional time if you have to slow down and turn.
Originally by: Rajere
Anytime you are aligning to warp immediately after jumping into a system (ie while you still have gate cloak and have 0 velocity) your agility is irrelevant. You will "align" to any gate and reach warp speed (75% of top speed) in the same amount of time, regardless of how much "aligning" it appears you need to do. You are not actually aligning at all, your ship has no alignment without velocity, the "aligning" that you see is merely your client drawing the align graphics on your screen.
Originally by: Tombozo
The 'facing' that you see is purely client-side, and has nothing to do with the physics engine. All the game cares about is your velocity, and when you're sitting still your velocity is zero. This means, you're not actually aligned anywhere. Have you ever notice that if you move fly your ship a different direction than it's 'facing' from a stop, it will actually fly backwards a bit before it turns around? The directionality you see is purely graphical.
Originally by: EFT Release Notes
- Ship agility and mass represented by the new "Align Time" parameter which shows approximate time required to gain 75% of top speed from zero speed
Originally by: Hoshi
The time from 0 to 75% is the same as align time. It doesn't matter what initial direction you have the time will be the same anyway as long as you start from a stand still. The formula is Time = -ln(0.25) * Inertia Modifier * Mass / 1.000.000
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Posted - 2008.12.03 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Omarvelous - Did you know that if you target a ship - a pod can NOT enter it? The smart thing for you to do would have been to take your covops - de cloak - target their ships, then laugh as their PODs can't do anything.
Which only helps if they aren't using an Orca to store the ships. If they are, there aren't any ships to target: the ships go directly from stored in the Orca to in-space with a pilot in it. ----- I'm a collector! Want to trade? See my Collection List and contact me. |

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Posted - 2008.12.07 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ginko Joukai If the pilot is -10 in a pod in empire flashing red and you pop it...
don't that get you concord'ed and lose sec rating?
No, anyone with a security status of -5.0 or lower are an Outlaw and can be shot on sight in high-sec by anyone. Just nearly impossible to lock-down a pod at a gate though. ----- I'm a collector! Want to trade? See my Collection List and contact me. |

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Posted - 2008.12.09 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: DrefsabZN If you mined while generally aligned to another point you could have got out as soon as you saw the reds in system.
How exactly would you do that? Align and fly towards a celestial, then turn around and align/fly towards some object in the other direction before you get to far from your asteroids? Not really feasible while mining I think.
Please keep in mind that the time to warp from 0 m/s is the same for any direction. Just pointing your ship at a point and then stopping does no good at all. ----- I'm a collector! Want to trade? See my Collection List and contact me. |

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Posted - 2008.12.27 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat Staying aligned to a station or Safespot isnt hard. If the hypothetical miner stays aligned and then hits warp as soon as someone suspicious arrives it is very difficult for them to be caught.
It is a little hard, and near impossible for a bookmark (since you can't use the Align button to fly towards them at full speed).
Please keep in mind that the time to warp from 0 m/s is the same for any direction. Just pointing your ship at a point and then stopping does no good at all.
So, you'd have to align and fly towards a celestial, then turn around and align/fly towards some object in the other direction before you get to far from your asteroids. I still don't think this is feasible while mining. ----- I'm a collector! Want to trade? See my Collection List and contact me. |
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